Gloria's Push - Last Saturday, Gloria asked if I had sent out an update. I knew that wasn't really a question. It was,
rather, a statement cloaked as a question.
She was right. The pathology report from her double mastectomy continues to dribble in and those muddy waters got a bit clearer
Friday. The news was good - I think. More about that in a bit.
The Lads - Last Monday evening found me on the floor in front of our TV linking it to my phone. We had watched a clip
several times and I decided it might be nice to see on a bigger screen.
Our interest in the video began on July 2. Our friend Jan accompanied us to the far western tip of the island of Anglesey in Wales.
It was a beautiful spot high above the swirling dark blue-green waters far below. We knew the guys from the Fron Male Voice Choir
would be making a video for United Airlines and the Wrexham football club just 9 days later, but didn't know at the time it would
be at that very spot.
View looking southwest from South Stack on the island of Anglesey
The song featured in the piece is sung in Welsh and includes another singing group from Patagonia, Argentina. But like "Ave Maria"
and similar pieces, a person doesn't need to understand the words to comprehend the meaning. It speaks directly to your heart.
The impact was multiplied by knowing the fellows personally and feeling the passion they have for their singing. On the day of the
recording, the lads had arisen early and remained until sunset to generate the sounds and sights that lasted only 90 seconds when
fully edited.
But last Monday, when I looked back at Gloria on the couch, I could see "clouds" gathering.
"What's the matter?" I asked.
"We won't get to see the lads," she answered, and began to softly cry.
She had been so looking forward to traveling with them to Malta this week. Seeing the Anglesey video made the fact she wouldn't
be there all too real.
I then played the choir singing "A Million Dreams." It provided enough of a Fron fix that all was reasonably good again.
Wednesday Was Also Trip Stuff - Last Wednesday also involved the trip, despite our being unable to go. It began with bad news
arriving in my inbox. The application sent to American Airlines for a refund had been turned down. They felt the documentation
provided by our doctor had been too vague to justify the refund. Sam, Dr. Doering’s nurse, had composed it and had tried to be
discreet in her description. The only guidance the website had provided was that a letter from the doctor was needed on his
letterhead. I thought we had adequately jumped through the hoops, but apparently not. So I tried my hand writing another and
sent it to Sam for the doc to sign. It left nothing to the imagination.
Later that day, my cousin Kris begin her journey from Appleton, Wisconsin to Manchester, England to meet up with Jan - who I call
my sister - Jan's granddaughter Courtney and the rest of their clan. Originally, we were to have met Kris in Chicago and traveled
with her. But, as you know, life intervened.
In buying Kris' ticket, I wasn't sure whether to use the long-layover scheme that almost guarantees she'd make it, or the one with
short layovers that have later flight options if things go badly. I went with the latter.
It went badly!
The flight to Heathrow was very late departing Chicago. When it all played out, rather than arriving at around 3 p.m. in Oswestry,
Kris arrived about 9 hours later near midnight. But what with flight controllers calling in sick and all, everyone seemed pleased
she had made it.
Knitted Knockers and Related - Doc thought the wording in my letter sounded good, so Sam printed it off on their letterhead.
We dropped by the office Friday afternoon to get the signed original.
The latest rendition of the most recent pathology report had come in, so Sam made a copy of that for us as well.
Since Gloria had been told to not drive for a couple of weeks to assure her chest wall heals fully, I have been chauffeuring her
around. When we got to Doering’s office, I sent her in by herself. But she was only inside a couple of minutes when she texted,
telling me that Sam had something she wanted to show Gloria. After a bit, my better half emerged from the building carrying an
envelope, which I presumed held the letter, and a small plastic package with something pink inside. She was also sporting a big
grin. The package contained - Are you ready for this? - "Knitted Knockers."
Gloria found this as funny as I did. On the other hand, I know that many women are pretty shaken when they receive the news that
to save their life, the prudent thing to do is to remove one or both breasts. The fact that an organization had formed to provide
prosthetic ones free of charge was pretty cool. Naturally, I had to see what I could learn about how that came to be. It was all
laid out at www.Knittedknockers.org.
Gloria and her "Knitted Knockers"
This is probably a good point to mention that Gloria has received a number of special gifts that she has really appreciated. One
can be seen in her weekly column this past week where she wrote about this most-recent breast cancer experience. In one frame of
the pictures at the column bottom is a "pillow" that slides over a seat belt to keep the belt from rubbing across her chest.
You can see that at: https://avedac.com/snapshots/2025/10-24-25.htm
In addition, a former colleague and his wife sent a Superman shirt and a friend on the West Coast sent a package from “Bosom
Buddies” (bosombuddiescharities.com) with a whole raft of things.
Some women wrestle with drains for weeks, but the special shirts Gloria received were good even though she had drains only two
days. Those shirts were very soft against the skin and are constructed with varying types of closures along the seams. After
surgery, it is not recommended for the woman to put her arms over her head, so pullover tops are a no-no. But these shirts fit
nicely, yet are silky smooth with some seams of Velcro and a primary one with a zipper.
Two of the Bosom Buddies items
Out on the Town - Well, not exactly. Gloria finds that she still gets tired quite easily, yet when she heard that Miriam and daughter Mariya were taking granddaughter Diana to "Boo at the Zoo," Gloria decided to join them. Unfortunately, Saturday evening was about one day into a multiple-day rainy-day period. But that didn’t seem to hold them back.
The theme was "The Addams Family." Miriam’s cousin Anabell joined them and wig of long gray hair was purchased for Gloria so
she could play Grandmama. From the pictures, everyone seemed to have a good time.
But later that evening, while we were "watching" TV, I was surprised when I turned in Gloria’s direction to discover she was
sleeping soundly. I called to her, but there was no response. I have the feeling she had had all the activity she could handle
for that day.
The Dribbling-in Pathology Report - Version one of the pathology report for the October 14 surgery arrived a week later
on Tuesday, the 21st. It was the one with the news that another cancer site had been discovered in Gloria's left breast. Its
existence wasn't known at the time Gloria had decided on the bilateral mastectomy based solely on eliminating the possibility
of a future cancer in the left breast and related mammograms.
So while this latest discovery was a shock, almost immediately both of us realized how fortunate it was she had chosen the path
she had. There was no "future" cancer, but there was a "right-now" one.
Gloria, Mariya, Miriam and Anabell with DQ
The report of the 21st did not have the results of the cancer’s markers that are used to treatment and prognosis. This temporarily
"muddied" the waters as there was a question if another attempt should be made to gather additional armpit nodes on that side in an
effort to obtain more information on whether this new cancer had spread, and if so, how to treat it.
By Friday, the analysis of three of the four markers had been completed. The ER one came back at 100% - as high as can be scored.
While that sounds bad, it’s actually good. That means that it is almost certainly highly dependent on estrogen to grow, so using
agents that block estrogen from reaching the receptors or blocking the receptors’ reaction to estrogen will probably terminate the
cancer's growth.
The PR marker came back negative, meaning the cancer is not dependent on progesterone to grow. That sounds good, but is probably
bad. If it was positive, blocking progesterone would likely serve to make life hard for the cancer. Since it was negative, the
cancer doesn’t need progesterone, so it cannot be starved by withholding the hormone or blocking its effect.
Perhaps the most interesting was the Ki-67 marker. It is a measure of how many cells were duplicating at the time of testing. If
15% or more of the cells are dividing, the cancer is more likely to be fast growing. If less than 10%, it is probably slow growing,
so low is normally seen as better. Gloria’s came back at less than 1%! That means growth was very, very slow. This newly discovered
cancer well may have been in the breast for 10 years or more, its small size allowing it to evade the radar of the mammogram.
More About HER2: - A subtlety about HER2 not previously mentioned because it wasn't important in those earlier cancers is
important in the case of the third tumor. As you may recall, HER2 - Human Epidermal Growth Factor Receptor 2 - refers to both a
gene - a portion of the DNA - and the protein it creates. Genes are used as patterns to create the proteins that are what our cells
are made of. This particular protein promotes cell growth and prods blood vessel growth to bring nutrients to support that growth.
A common situation with cancerous cells is the HER2 gene creates too many of these proteins, leading to rapid growth. Like so many
aspects of biology, this is an essential activity for continued life, but too much of a good thing becomes a bad thing! A positive
HER2 rating means there is too much. At one time, this was associated with particularly lethal cancers. But treatments targeting
this process have pretty much turned that situation around, making these easier to treat than those that are negative.
The subtle aspect has to do with that "too much of a good thing becomes a bad thing" comment. For breast cells to live and reproduce
normally, they must have the HER2 gene that creates indirectly the corresponding protein. The usual test is performed by adding a
staining agent responsive only to the protein. Four grades are assigned and exemplars are used to compare with the results. This
evaluation method is a source of problems. Since it involves comparing the examples with the stained breast tissue and deciding
to what degree the test material is stained, evaluation is not as reliable as say counting something as with the other markers. The
test becomes subjective.
But difficulty arises when there is a fair degree of staining, but not overwhelming. Since the judging is subjective, these are
assigned an EQUIVOCAL rating ... a fancy way of saying, "I don't know." This is the situation with the newly-discovered cancer in
the left breast.
The normal procedure then is to perform a FISH - fluorescence in situ hybridization - test. This involves a pretty cool procedure
- meaning it is slower, more costly, but definitive - that establishes whether a mutation has occurred that resulted in a doubling
of the HER2 gene. If there are two where there was to be only one, too much growth should be expected. If not, well, there still may
be something going on that results in too much of the corresponding protein being created.
Now What? - Given the slow growth rate of this third cancer and the fact that it appears to have been removed in total, a
consultation by Doering with the oncologist and a another colleague led to an assessment that this new one will be treated as just
an interesting anomaly, and the treatment for the right breast cancer will be what is focused on.
A Few Final Random Comments:
- There is one apparent contradiction that constantly reappears in the treatment of cancer. The very
defining characteristic of a cancer is it grows too much. Many treatments focus on the fact that rapid growth requires resources
to build these additional cells. If poisons are circulated, the cancer cells may, in a sense, "eat" themselves to death. The
conundrum is that a fast-growing cancer left untreated is the most life threatening, but also is generally the easiest to kill as
it takes up so much poison. In contrast, the slow growers will take a long time to cause problems, yet can be the hardest to
stamp out.
- The next day after Kris arrived in Malta, she sent a photo taken from her hotel. She titled it, "View from our rooftop swimming
pool." Gloria looked outside here at home, took a picture from our deck and sent it to Kris, titling hers, "View from our deck!"
Fron Choir Members at South Stack
- Those who know her know how much Gloria enjoys languages, but has confessed that the Welsh language is a real challenge for her. Its
roots are in the Celt language, which is also the basis for the Irish, Scottish and German. The song in the video - of which only
a tiny bit is sung in the video, was written in 1983 and Fron choir member Gareth Owen kicks it off. It recognizes the attempts to
expunge both the Welsh people and their language. Roman emperor Magnus Maximus, whose rule began in 383 is mentioned as sort of a
starting point in these efforts. The theme is basically this: 1600 years has passed and we are still here.
Comparable words in Welsh and English follow:
Yma o Hyd
Dwyt ti'm yn cofio Macsen
Does neb yn ei nabod o
Mae mil a chwe chant o flynyddoedd
Yn amser rhy hir i'r cof
Pan aeth Magnus Maximus o Gymru
Yn y flwyddyn 383
A'n gadael yn genedl gyfan
A heddiw, wele ni
Ry'n ni yma o hyd
Ry'n ni yma o hyd
Er gwaetha pawb a phopeth
Er gwaetha pawb a phopeth
Er gwaetha pawb a phopeth
Ry'n ni yma o hyd
Ry'n ni yma o hyd
Er gwaetha pawb a phopeth
Er gwaetha pawb a phopeth
Er gwaetha pawb a phopeth
Ry'n ni yma o hyd
Still Here
You don’t remember Macsen,
nobody knows him.
One thousand and six hundred years,
a time too long to remember.
When Magnus Maximus left Wales,
in the year three-hundred-eight-three,
leaving us a whole nation,
and today; look at us!
We are still here.
We are still here.
In spite of everyone and everything.
In spite of everyone and everything.
In spite of everyone and everything.
We are still here.
We are still here.
In spite of everyone and everything.
In spite of everyone and everything.
In spite of everyone and everything.
We are still here.